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TESTING TESTING

YAY MY ANNOYING SPARKLETEXT WORKS

I AM SO EXCITE

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From:

thene

SPARKLEPEEN

From:

pennie_dreadful

RELEVANT TO OUR INTERESTS

From:

thene

THAT'S WHAT THIS COMM NEEDS; THE BEST INTERESTS LISTS EVER.

From:

pennie_dreadful

Fuck still getting used to DW codes. I MEAN: I

velgarth doesn't allow fanfic, therefore shamelessly promoting the comm over there would be great trollfun, y/y?

From:

thene

DO IT PLS

From:

thene

i may have just made the interests lists worse. Still a lot of work to do before it can match the one on

capslock_mgs

From:

pennie_dreadful

I KNEW I MADE YOU ADMIN FOR A GOOD REASON. :'D

From:

pennie_dreadful

I may have just helped make it worser...

From:

thene

i may be LOLing IRL right now

From:

pennie_dreadful

i may have added more interests while i was slacking off at work

From:

thene

I put in another couple myself because this is far far far too much fun! I admire the brevity of the Fandom Wank interests list - it's like a haiku - but I keep thinking of new terrible things that are relevant. I should really make an actual post or something lol, just not sure what about /brain fuzzy

You'll like the link in my most recent entry, btw - JW is in it, several times.

From:

pennie_dreadful

Is it bad that I have read most of the fics the relevant JW excerpts/prompts were taken from.

Also lol, reliving some wank that went down in FS fandom months ago via Fandom Wank, I SWEAR I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE CRAY CRAY FANS.

From:

thene

Well so long as you didn't write any of them I don't think you're doing THAT bad.

From:

pennie_dreadful

Lol no, my only posted JW fic is disgustingly gen (well, and there's the alien invasion fic, but there's so sex in it.)

From:

nakki

waaaaaait, if they don't allow fanfic, what do they talk about?????!!!!!!

From:

pennie_dreadful

Fuck if I know. It's probably not even worth it, as there are only 8 members and one discussion post, with like 6 comments. But according to their profile, fanfic is ''theft of intellectual property'', so it kinda makes me want to do it just to annoy them. And here I thought the Livejournal LHM comm was stuffy and boring, jesus.

From:

celestinenox

Apparently, they don't allow fic because Lackey said no fic? Except look what I found: apparently fic is okay now!. (Scroll all the way to the bottom.)

Someone didn't get the memo?

Edited Date: 2011-12-28 11:00 pm (UTC)

From:

pennie_dreadful

ikr, and it's not like Misty never wrote fanfiction herself evar--and according to someone (this is unverified so idk) she even still writes fic for City of Heroes.

So I don't think the no fic rule was because she disapproved of fic, she just couldn't ''allow'' it for legal purposes. But this was in the eighties and early nineties, times change, etc. but some people are still holding on to their fic snobbery, apparently. (intellectual theft, srsly?)

From:

celestinenox

And really, it seems like it was her agent that recommended no fic, more than she didn't want any. And yeah, probably for legal reasons, but still. It's not like she went all GRAAAH about it like SOME authors I could name.

From:

pennie_dreadful

Yeah, but for all the Diana Gabaldons and George R.R. Martins, there are Naomi Noviks and Patrick Rothfusses. I am still tickled that Patrick wrote on his blog that he didn't feel like a real author until someone wrote slashfic of The Name Of The Wind--and then posted a link to what in all probablity was the very first Kvothe/Bast slashfic. XD

From:

celestinenox

LOL that is amazing!

See, if I ever become a published author and have a fandom, I don't think I'll read fic, mostly because I know the things fandom does to characters. XD (Not that I'll mind slashfic, I plan to have plenty of canon slash, but just that, you know, woobification and the like.)

But I'll totally allow fic because seriously, where would I be without it?

I will totally have to read The Name of the Wind now.

From:

thene

fwiw I wallbanged The Name Of The Wind about halfway through and never picked it up again. There was a lot of really interesting worldbuilding but the story & characters hadn't grabbed me, so after it hit my domestic violence trigger in a pretty failzy way I didn't have the motivation to pick it up again. I've heard a lot of good of it from a lot of people but it didn't work out for me.

From:

thene

What I really don't get is them saying art is okay but not fic. /face.palm.

To be fair to Lackey she's been in an interesting position due to having inherited the legal rights to Darkover, which was the bomb site of the most notorious fanfic legal wank ever. Especially given the zillions of fannish injokes in the LHM (I was young enough to be tickled by it back when I realised what Vanyel's name means in Quenya, and it's not even the only LOTR reference there) and things that feel like obvious playing-around with slash fandom tropes, I never for a moment took Lackey seriously on the no-fic thing and I am kinda unimpressed by people who said wanky things in support of that position, few of whom have ever recanted or apologised. OH WELL LET'S MOVE ON AND POST PORN.

From:

boundbooks

Update!

Short form: I PM'd the

velgarth mod and they were all super-nice, and now the profile says this:

"2. Fanwork is acceptable. All fanwork that contains specific characters, races or places created by Mercedes Lackey needs to contain a copyright watermark."

So, now it's all fanwork, with a disclaimer, is allowed.

Long form: comment explanation

From:

thene

Ooh thanks, that is amazingly public-spirited of you. This being a small fandom, it would be a shame to have people think that fanworks weren't wanted even now it's a non-issue.

From:

boundbooks

Update!

Short form: I PM'd the

From:

boundbooks

Update! :D

I actually just went over there and PM'd the mod,

allati about the 'no fic' thing, because Lackey explicitly allowed fic in 2010.

Turns out what happens is that the original mod (who wrote the profile, rules and was the primary mod) up and vanished, deleting and purging the journal, and didn't tell

allati. So,

allati never changed the profile because they thought they couldn't, so the 'no fic allowed' thing sat there and rotted.

allati thought that they were one of two mods at

velgarth until my PM.

However, I PM'd

allati and they were all super-nice, and now the profile says this:

"2. Fanwork is acceptable. All fanwork that contains specific characters, races or places created by Mercedes Lackey needs to contain a copyright watermark."

So, it looks like it's now 'all fanwork, with a disclaimer' is allowed. Which is much nicer. :)

Edited Date: 2011-12-31 02:03 am (UTC)

From:

celestinenox

Whooo, yay for awesome mods!

From:

nakki

yaaaayaaayaaa *appropriate icon is appropriate!!!*

From:

boundbooks

Saw you mention this community in

addme_fandom! :)

If you're interested in more places to promote this community, you might be interested in the following:

dw_community_promo,

fandom_on_dw, and

fandomcalendar (if you ever run any events on this community :)

From:

pennie_dreadful

Thank you! I'm still sort of new to Dreamwidth so I don't know anyone yet.

From:

boundbooks

Oh, welcome to Dreamwidth! I don't know if you happen to be looking for more communities or journals to subscribe to, but if you are, you might find the following helpful! :)

argylepiratewd: Panfandom friending meme for people both old and new to Dreamwidth. I filled out a comment!

rydra_wong: It's the Giant Community Rec-O-Matic! - "You leave a comment saying what sort of comms you'd be interested in finding on Dreamwidth (or you could ask people to rec comms on the basis of your profile interests).

boundbooks: Dreamwidth Communites I Love. Tell Me Yours, Too!

fandom_newsletters: Active Fandom Newsletters on Dreamwidth

Edited Date: 2011-12-30 09:58 pm (UTC)