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Me trying to explain LHM to the friends like:

"you should totally read them, there are sad gays and talking horses"

"gimme those canonically queer pretties or gimme death, u feel"

"stef's like 'I wanna bang the hot guy' and vans like 'oh no he hero worships me and will do anything for my approval, even bed me' and stefs like 'WHY IS THE HOT GUY SO STUBBORN I still wanna bang him'"

why do these books read like a really good, if melodramatic, dark fanfic? i don't know, but i love it.

Date: 2015-12-10 05:54 am (UTC)
thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (Default)
From: [personal profile] thene
I don't even lend them out any more, tbh, because I don't want to explain that, yes, this is something I love, and also hate, because it hit me right when I needed it, and it was all I had. As much as I can I'd rather only talk about the LHM with other people who Get It :/ Wow I should get the fuck over myself on this, but I feel stuck in my ways now.

Date: 2015-12-11 06:19 am (UTC)
thene: "'The spirit is a garden,' said he." Photograph from ColinPurrington.com (snowdrops of gratuitous self-reference)
From: [personal profile] thene
I've not read any of the Mags stuff...I just hit a wall after reading the Storms and decided I reaaaaally didn't care about anything except for Van/Stef. I've also heard some mixed field reports there - at any rate, no real impetus for me to read the Mags stuff.

I'll make fun of him all week, but Van is a hell of a character, and he will always mean a lot to me as the first self-identified queer I read about (stuff I'd read previously that included same-sex romance didn't mark itself as queer, if you get me? So I got hella curious about it but without being given any tools that would help me dig into that. Van is a crowbar.)

It is so funny that LITERALLY EVERYONE IN THE FANDOM reads him as kinkily submissive...there are all these characters you see played either way by their fandoms and Van, uh, is not one of them. I can see him being fairly unaware of his kinks, though. (due to repressing them, not getting laid, etc). I tend to imagine him wanting things, not having them, and burying those urges deep. He's so emotional, so much so that it's usually easier for him to shut all that shit down rather than face it and deal with it. :/ He is so damn vulnerable.

Date: 2015-12-13 01:56 pm (UTC)
thene: Fang, Vanille and the space between them. (awakened)
From: [personal profile] thene
I would read all of the above. :D I tend to prefer fixits to be at least a little traumatic...I guess I feel like they ought to pay for it, if they want everything fixed. (and, been burned on too many really pedestrian Lendel Doesn't Die fixits in this fandom. Fixit has to be able to deal with the CAUSES of the disaster rather than just magic away the consequences; so for what you outlined, I'm sure Van would have a lot of guilt about hurting Stef and tons of trepidation about what else he has to do, plus, if he has to tell Stef what happened, he knows Stef is not going to be happy with his willingness to kill himself. Agh I want everything about this.

And yay more kink! I think you're right tbh - I would love to believe they do healthy kink but given their circumstances/inexperience, it's more likely that they don't. And I would love to see how that goes, if you're up for writing it.

Agree, I love searching out queer narratives!

Date: 2015-12-13 11:59 pm (UTC)
kat_nic: A cat wearing glasses (Default)
From: [personal profile] kat_nic
Lol, I kept my LHM obsession secret because I grew up in a conservative environment. I did not pick up on any of the clues provided by the narrative that Vanyel was gay until he told Tylendel he was attracted to him. And sad to say, if I had known LHM featured a gay protagonist, I would not have read it. I got an online friend to read it a while ago, but until five years ago the fandom was, well. Completely nonexistant (whereas now it is virtually nonexistant :P) Anyway, hi, welcome, feel free to share all the fix-it bdsm porn you want.

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